32 H&R Mags will not fit - too long - so don't even try.) You don't offer the serial number, so I can't pin down (actually guess) what year in that range your piece was made. If safe to shoot (I recommend getting it checked by a pro gunsmith), it should be able to handle the modern factory loadings offered in that cartridge (.32 Longs or. It was made to handle smokeless/Nitro powder loads in the. Welcome to the forum! What took ya sooo long?įrom the pics - you have a very nice example of a 2nd Model PREMIER 2nd Variation (1906 - 1908). I enhanced your pics a bit and it looks to me as though your gun falls into the high GOOD to low V.Good category - the grips add a bit of value - so AT RETAIL your gun would probably run in the $135 to $155 range. I have seen 98% examples sell above $200. GOOD to EXCELLENT condition, RETAIL values of the standard configuration will run from a low of under $100 for a POOR condition piece to around $195 for one in collectible condition. If not there, it doesn't mean your MOP panels are not factory - they have all the contours and shape of the factory panels.Īs to value: although collectible in V. If you CAREFULLY remove the grip panels, you may see the serial number or the the last 3 or 4 digits written on the back side in lead pencil. MOP, checkered walnut and Ivory grip panels were available at extra charge. Options for this model are: Blued finish (scarce) 2" (BICYCLE MODEL), 4", 5" or 6" barrels. Other than the MOP grip panels, your gun has the "standard" features of Nickel finish and 3" barrel and chambered for 5 x. From examples of the M1 V1 in my collection, your s/n in the 40K range seems to be around the middle of the range - so, I'm guessing your gun was probably made in late 1901- early '02. The 1st Variation was in production from circa 1899 to 1903. Looks like you've correctly IDed your H&R 1st MODEL Small Frame HAMMERLESS. In my opinion, it is in fair condition, see pictures the same linked gallery. The second is a top break auto ejecting revolver (not sure caliber), again with the target logo on the grip. In my opinion, it is in very good condition, see pictures in linked gallery below. 32 top break auto ejecting revolver, with the target logo on the grip. I just inherited two different H&R top break revolvers, and as it appears that Jim is the in house expert, i was wondering if you could help me more accurately identify them. Hey everyone, I just joined this forum, and already have learned a lot from reading through these threads. VALUE 100%=$225 60%=$85 For all Auto-Ejecting 2nd Models add 75% premium for 2½” barrel add 25% for 4”, 5” & 6” barrels add 15% for blue finish add 10% for 1st, 2nd, 3rd & 4th variations with nickel trigger guard on nickel finish pieces *Serial numbers found on the bottom side of the top strap will have letter codes with them. Second Variation one patent date marked OCT-4-1887 (year marked in full)-1890-1892* Top of barrel markings include company name and address and patent dates.įirst Variation one patent date OCT-4-87 only-1890-1892 New frame shape and new hard rubber grip panels with Target Logo, Auto-ejecting mechanism, Calibers 32 S&W, 6 shot cylinder capacity, 38 S&W caliber 5 shot cylinder capacity, nickel finish (blue optional), barrel lengths of 2½ (rare), 3¼ (standard), 4, 5 & 6 inches available, “IF THERE IS NO CALIBER MARKING ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE BARREL THEN IT WAS MANUFACTURED FOR BLACK POWDER” do not fire this revolver with any modern 32 ammo.ĪUTOMATIC EJECTING SECOND MODEL (NEW FRAME TARGET LOGO GRIPS) the 32 S&W Long had not been introduced yet and the 32 H&R Long is discontinued (about 1905). the 32 caliber marking on the boxes for this model read 32 H&R Long or 32 S&W. serial number A 5697 was manufactured in 1891. This is a second model 2nd variation (1890-1892).
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